The Rot In Britain: Oxford Union Describes October 7th Atrocities As “Heroism”

How revolting is this and at the Oxford Union no less!: Niall Ferguson, his article below,  started out by condemning the shockingly anti-Semitic debate at the heretofore esteemed Oxford Union and went on to describe the deterioration of British society.

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Take a look at the numbers. They are really bad and do not bode well for Britain particularly if Labor remains in power which they are likely to do for the next 5 years.

He is right to say, or at least strongly imply, that what the country needs is another strong dose of Margaret Thatcher, something I have been saying for more than 10 years.

With a growing Muslim presence in Britain and their increasing militancy the day when there is a Muslim prime minister is about 20 years away unless steps are taken now to halt Muslim immigration, empower the police and British courts to take severe measures against the unbridled aspirations of totalitarian Islam.

“ This felt like a marker, the moment when the Oxford Union truly fell”

Let’s keep this simple. F*** Oxford. Very very much.https://t.co/YgrDJ5RWyB

— Clifford Asness (@CliffordAsness) December 4, 2024

I don’t understand this evil any more…

Even in my antisemitic days, I don’t think I would’ve had this level of pure evil in my heart as @mikopeled shows here.https://t.co/5ED2SWOXfy pic.twitter.com/aZXzRhAuVU

— (((Amir Pars))) (@AmirPars_) December 4, 2024

This writeup of the antisemitic and deeply illiberal events at the @OxfordUnion is extraordinary. This necessitates a full and thorough investigation by @UniofOxford and its new chancellor @WilliamJHague.

The Oxford Union cannot claim to remain a bastion of free speech if… pic.twitter.com/YcpRNbxdQV

— Ed Leon Klinger (@edleonklinger) November 30, 2024

Oxford Union is controlled by terrorist supporters.

Last night I asked the participants and pro “Palestine” opponents during a debate at Oxford Union if they would have reported Hamas plans to authorities to prevent October 7 massacre;

75% of the participants voted they… pic.twitter.com/qGd0snfAsn

— Mosab Hassan Yousef (@MosabHasanYOSEF) November 29, 2024

@OxfordUnion has removed itself as a place for a credible and respectful exchange of ideas. Now it’s nothing more than an antisemitic, terrorist mouthpiece. Shameful. https://t.co/Nwc2RacxM1

— Mmallarys #Zionist #JusticeForMalkiRoth (@MMallarys) December 1, 2024

Niall Ferguson: The Rot In Britain—and the Remedy

Lately it seems that mine is a country with a death wish. Can we avoid national suicide?

By: Niall Ferguson

“But you can give it up, stop Shirriffing, if it has stopped being a respectable job,” said Sam.

“We’re not allowed to,” said Robin.

“If I hear not allowed much oftener,” said Sam, “I’m going to get angry.”

“Can’t say as I’d be sorry to see it,” said Robin, lowering his voice. “If we all got angry together something might be done.”

. . . This was Frodo and Sam’s own country, and they found out now that they cared about it more than any other place in the world. Many of the houses that they had known were missing. Some seemed to have been burned down. The pleasant row of old hobbit-holes in the bank on the north side of the Pool were deserted, and their little gardens that used to run down bright to the water’s edge were rank with weeds. Worse, there was a whole line of the ugly new houses all along Pool Side, where the Hobbiton Road ran close to the bank. An avenue of trees had stood there. They were all gone. And looking with dismay up the road towards Bag End they saw a tall chimney of brick in the distance. It was pouring out black smoke into the evening air.

. . . “This is worse than Mordor!” said Sam. “Much worse in a way. It comes home to you, as they say; because it is home, and you remember it before it was all ruined.”

—J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Book VI, ch. 8.

. . . This was Frodo and Sam’s own country, and they found out now that they cared about it more than any other place in the world. Many of the houses that they had known were missing. Some seemed to have been burned down. The pleasant row of old hobbit-holes in the bank on the north side of the Pool were deserted, and their little gardens that used to run down bright to the water’s edge were rank with weeds. Worse, there was a whole line of the ugly new houses all along Pool Side, where the Hobbiton Road ran close to the bank. An avenue of trees had stood there. They were all gone. And looking with dismay up the road towards Bag End they saw a tall chimney of brick in the distance. It was pouring out black smoke into the evening air.

. . . “This is worse than Mordor!” said Sam. “Much worse in a way. It comes home to you, as they say; because it is home, and you remember it before it was all ruined.”

—J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings, Book VI, ch. 8.

Something is rotten in the state of Britain. It was epitomized by a recent event at the Oxford Union, the 201-year-old debating society that is such a distinctive and admirable part of Oxford life. It was at the Union that, 40 years ago, I spoke as freely (and indeed as irresponsibly) as I ever have, discovering in the process that I was not cut out for politics. It was there that I saw great debaters of the past, present, and future.

But I never saw anything like the events of November 28.

The motion for debate was in itself a provocation: “This House Believes Israel Is an Apartheid State Responsible for Genocide.” But what was truly shocking was the conduct of the president of the Union, an Egyptian student named Ebrahim Osman-Mowafy, who appears to have abused his position by openly siding with those proposing the motion and treating the opposing speakers with contempt.

According to the broadcaster, Jonathan Sacerdoti, who was arguing for Israel’s side, Osman-Mowafy canceled the traditional pre-debate group photographs, but posed alone for private photos with the anti-Israel team. During the debate, the pro-Israel speakers were repeatedly heckled by the crowd. At one point, a young woman stood up and screamed at Sacerdoti: “Liar! Fuck you, the genocidal motherfucker!”

Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of a senior Hamas leader who defected to Israel, who was arguing alongside Sacerdoti, was met with jeering derision and cries of “traitor” and “prostitute” (in Arabic). Yousef asked the audience to indicate by a show of hands how many of them would have reported prior knowledge of the October 7, 2023, atrocities to Israel. Not even a quarter of the crowd raised their hands.

For the other side, Miko Peled, an Israeli general’s son turned radical anti-Zionist, described the murders, rapes, and kidnappings of October 7 as “acts of heroism.” The Palestinian poet Mohammed El-Kurd, who has equated Zionism with genocide, began his speech by announcing that there was “no room for debate” and ended it by walking out of the chamber. The motion passed by 278 in favor to 59 against.

Reading reports of this shameful fiasco at my alma mater, I found myself wondering: Where are the Thought Police when you really need them? After all, the Oxford Union’s latest debate sounded a lot like one of those “noncrime hate incidents” that currently consume so much of the British police’s time.

Consider the case of the popular Daily Telegraph columnist Allison Pearson. A year ago, Pearson had posted a photo of Greater Manchester Police officers standing beside supporters of former Pakistani prime minister Imran Khan’s Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party waving the party’s flag, referring to them as “Jew haters.” Although she had subsequently deleted the tweet, a year later, on Remembrance Sunday, she was visited at her home by Essex Police, who told her she was under investigation and invited her to a voluntary interview, apparently following a complaint that she had “stirred up racial hatred.” (There was some confusion about whether the police were investigating a crime or a “noncrime.” The police have since dropped the investigation.)

American readers may reasonably wonder if, like the Thought Police, the concept of a “noncrime hate incident” originated in George Orwell’s 1984. I am afraid not. NCHIs have their origins in an inquiry that followed the murder of a young black man, Stephen Lawrence, in 1993. The inquiry recommended that the police in future log all “racist incidents,” including those that did not reach the threshold of being criminal offenses.

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