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Comments inspired by the article Jenny Nielsen and Lucis Semita about provability of Riemann Hypothesis

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Jenny Lorraine Nielsen and Lucis Semita have published and interesting and very speculative article (this)) related to the provability of Riemann Hypothesis (RH). Here is th abstract of the article.

We prove that the Riemann Hypothesis is independent of ZFC and true in the standard model of arithmetic. Independence is established by introducing the Λ Irreducibility Principle, which detects semantic obstruction under “round-trip” translation between fundamentally distinct representational paradigms. We formalize two paradigms intrinsic to number theory: a linear arithmetic paradigm and a curved analytic-spectral paradigm. We show that RH is Λ-irreducible with respect to these paradigms, and therefore undecidable in ZFC.

We then prove the truth of RH in two logically independent ways. First, we introduce strong reflection principles, termed Bundle Cardinal Axioms, under which the Λ obstruction collapses and RH becomes provable. We show that these axioms are Π0-1 conservative over ZFC, implying that such provability entails truth in the standard model of arithmetic.

Second, independently of any reflection axiom, we prove that if RH is Π0-1 and ZFC-independent, then it must already be true in the standard model, by arithmetic witness reflection. Together these results constitute a proof that RH is independent of ZFC and true in N, with its truth derivable by two independent logical routes.

I am not metamathematician and many notions involved are unfamiliar to me so that I cannot say anything about the proposed proof of Riemann hypothesis (I have considered a possible proof based on physics inspired arguments (see this). There notions are however very interestingand I cannot resist the temptation to look for the TGD counterparts of some of these notions. I have already earlier consider Gödel’s theorems from the TGD point of view from the point of view holography = holomorphy vision providing an exact solution of the field equations for space-time surfaces irrespective of the action principle as long it is general coordinate invariant and expressible in terms of induced geometry (see this).

  1. The idea about the space of representational paradigms is an interesting notion. The meaning of arithmetic and analytic spectral paradigms of number theory are intuitively clear in the case of RH. Primes and the zeros of zeta are related (here Google language model helps): statements about prime distribution correspond to statements about the distribution of zeros of zeta and one can formulate Riemann hypothesis as statements about these distributions. This brings in mind number theory and geometry related in the geometric Langlands duality.
[MP] In the TGD framework, Langlands geometric duality is extended from 2-D case to 4-D case and involves M8-H duality (see this and this) as a generalization of momentum-position duality relating geometric and number theoretic views of physics to a situation when point-like particles are replaced by 3-surfaces (see this and this). The M8-H duality means the coding of classical aspects of physical state by geometrized classical fields at the level of H and by momenta and other quantum numbers at level of M8.
  • Wikipedia informs that Lambda calculus relates to mathematical logic and describes computation as function abstraction and application using variable binding and substitution. Lambda irreducibility means that a further simplification is not possible. One interpretation could be that the proof of the theorem as a path in the space to allowed sentences is the shortest one possible.
  • [MP] In TGD, space-time surfaces satisfying slightly non-deterministic holography = holomorphy correspondence represent elements of ordinary number fields and function fields. Non-determinism makes them analogous to linguistic expressions, sentences, such that the 3-D loci of non-determinism take the role of worlds (in TGD inspired theory of consciousness they represent memory seats). This could be seen also as proofs of theorems A→Bi with A represented as holographic data.

    Could the TGD counterpart of Lambda calculus code for the rules for the decomposition of pieces of the non-deterministic space-time surface? What can happen at the loci of non-determinism would be told by the rules of the calculus. Could the analog of Λ irreducibility mean that the representation as a space-time surface is the simplest possible one. Is this implied by the field equations solved by holography = holomorphy principle.

  • Round trip translation brings to mind holonomy in Riemann geometry. The “linear” in linear paradigm of number theory and “curved” in curved analytic spectral paradigm cannot however relate to this holonomy. I understand that there are maps between the languages of the representational paradigms, maybe one could call them morphisms. Morphisms as correspondences in the most general sense can be many-to-one and even 1-to-many.
  • [MP] In TGD, M8-H duality would be this kind of morphism. It is not one-to-one in either direction. Consider H→M8 direction. All M4 translates of space-time surface X4 ⊂ H=M4×CP2 are mapped to the same momentum space surface Y4 ⊂ M8: the translational symmetry make the translates of X4 effectively equivalent so that they correspond to the same Y4. The map H→M8 is however 2-valued at the singular 3-surfaces appearing as edges of space-time. Space-time surface branches or turns back in geometric time.

    The singularities involve 1→2 vertices for fermion pair creation as turning of fermion backwards in time and having in TGD description involving smooth exotic structures possible only in 4-D space-time and edges of X4. One can speak of Brownian motion of a 4-surface X4 in H with discontinuous changes of the direction at the 3-D vertices as loci of the classical non-determinism. The counterparts of Feynman diagrams for fermions involve only 2-vertices and this means huge simplification (see this).

  • Could the obstruction mean that one of the maps or both between different paradigms are not homomorphisms implying that they are not equivalent? If so, both paradigms are needed for a full description.
  • [MP] What could the obstruction mean in the case of M8-H duality? The two paradigms would be M8- and H paradigm: momentum space description and position space description. Could the obstruction correspond to the 1-2 property in H→M8 direction at the 3-D singularities at which classical determinism, minimal surface property, holomorphy and standard smooth structure fail? These obstructions would correspond to geometric particle vertices acting as memory seats. This would support the view that both descriptions are necessary: one obtains very simple analogs of Feynman rules scattering amplitude at M8 side (see this) but classical picture involving classical field provided by H side is necessary for the interpretation of experiments.]

    M8-H duality can be 1-to.very-many in M8→H direction in a different way. At peak-like singularities of Y8⊂M8 a single point is mapped to an infinite number of CP2 points since the tangent space at the singularity is not unique. The set of CP2 points is 3-dimensional for the singular points. CP2 type extremals with Euclidean metric are the building blocks of elementary particles in a geometric sense.

  • How does this relate to the provability of a statement, say, RH? I do not have the competence to comment the Cardinal Axiom and the two proofs of RH.
  • [MP] It is however possible to geometrize the notions of proof and axiom system in TGD. The slightly non-deterministic space-time-surface X4 could be interpreted as a proof of a statement A→B, with premises A represented as 3-D holographic data X3. The alternative interpretation is as computer program-like structure. Various implications of A would correspond to different theorems: A→Bi. The existence of this kind X4(A→B) as a proof for a given B is far from obvious since classical field equations are satisfied even at the loci of non-determinism.

    Holography= holomorphy principle would define the axioms of TGD as a physical theory. The space of space-time surfaces (“world of classical worlds” (WCW)) together with WCW spinor fields as correlates for Boolean logic define quantum Platonia. WCW could be seen as the space of proofs for theorems represented geometrically. The possibility to assign elements of various number fields, also of function fields, corresponds to the Gödel numbering assigning to a proof of a theorem as a space-time surface a Gödel number.]

    Gödel theorems force us to conclude that there is an infinite hierarchy of axiom systems. In TGD, this hierarchy is implied by a finite measurement resolution. The polynomials appearing in the equations defining X4 resp. Y4 have numbers in an extension of rationals as Taylor coefficients. The extensions form infinite inclusion hierarchies. Also analytic functions are possible. The extension of rationals defines a natural discretization characterizing also a given axiomatics. The higher the complexity of the algebraic extension, the more powerful the axioms system is and becomes optimal at the limit of algebraic numbers. Iterations of polynomials define inclusion hierarchies for the axiom system. If the coefficient field consists of real numbers, real numbers characterize the axiomatics.

    For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

    For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.


    Source: https://matpitka.blogspot.com/2025/12/comments-inspired-by-article-jenny.html


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