Prophecy News - 'Not just Iran, 'Israel would kill millions of people' | Rabbi Elhanan Beck', interviewed by Unapologetic, March 29, 2026

This is Easter Friday, when Jesus was supposed to have been killed. This story tells a different story than what you see on the media.  It’s a Muslim host interviewing a Jewish rabbi. Two different ideas, but they work well together.  The rabbi explains why he is against the state of Israel. The Muslim host too knows this well.  They are both anti-Zionist and pro-Jewish. Jesus, also a Jew, has said he wants to save Jacob.  Here you will find out who Jacob is and who the non-believers are. It’s a lively discussion, one that lasts until the end of the one hour video.

Carim interviewing Rabbi Elhanan Beck

03/29/2026

Chapter 1: Opening Highlights

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: According to the Torah, the state of Israel has no right to exist. But they come so nicely and they, arrest you ..blah blah blah blah blah. That’s all. No, they’re coming and they beat people on the head everywhere. It’s- you can see that only in the social media, because the mainstream media don’t show that.

Carim: So you’re saying Netanyahu is Amalek?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  Natanyahu. I didn’t have to say it. This is a fact. Amalek means ‘people who uproot people from God’. Especially the Jewish people:- uproot from God. This is the job that Netanyahu does, and exactly he is the Amalek. No difference. what the price of that is. If the price of that is killing 100 million people they will do that.

Carim: 100 million people?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  Everything. What the prize is: to wipe out Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon. Wipe them completely up.

Carim: They could drop a nuclear bomb on Iran if they wanted to. Do you think if it comes to that they they would?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  I think yes, 100%. There’s a Jewish hospital in Iran funded completely by the government. Why you don’t see that in the news? They just say, “The Iranian anti-semites, the Nazis.”
[End opening highlights.]

Carim: I’m going to clap first, and then I’m going to look there, and then I’m going to say welcome back Rabbi Elhanan, and then we’ll start..

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  to speak to you, not to the camera.

Carim: ..and speak to me. Here is, I’m starting in 3 2 1.(One Clap) ..Hi, good day. Welcome to another episode of ‘Unapologetic’. I’m your host Carim and I’m really happy today to welcome back to the show for the first time I think in about 18 months, Rabbi Elhanan. Rabbi, welcome to the show.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  Thank you. I know. Thank you.

Carim: Rabbi, you last spoke to me, I think it was May or April 2024. You may not remember the date, but I know you remember sitting here and speaking with me. And at the time, uh, Israel had already killed about 40 or 45,000 Palestinians in Gaza. It had reduced a lot of Gaza. Um, but since then, Israel has probably destroyed a lot more in Gaza. The official death toll now is 75,000. The truth is, it’s probably much higher because there’s many people under the rubble. There’s many people unaccounted for. 90% of the buildings in Gaza are destroyed.

Israel are also, through settlers and with the backing of the state, uh committing a pogrom in the West Bank. There’s no other word for it. It’s a pogrom. On a daily basis, uh Palestinian kids are smacked by settlers or beaten up by settlers or worse. Homes are confiscated.

Chapter 2: Zionism and Judaism

..Increasing settlement. Confiscated lands are being- Palestinian lands are being confiscated for increased settler activity. At the same time now with the war on Iran happening – the U.S.-Israeli led war on Iran – vast swathes of southern Lebanon have been evacuated. Israel are bombing southern Lebanon with more ferocious intensity than they have, even at the height of the war earlier. And of course, they’re bombing Iran, which is a very big deal and has the potential- it’s already drawn-in many other nations. It has the potential to become a regional war.

Um and again like in Gaza, when Netanyahu invoked Amalek. Again, when he spoke about Iran he invoked Amalek. Now I know that you are a rabbi and I know that you are very angry with Israel’s actions and Netanyahu’s actions. Just to start off with, what’s your response to to what everything I’ve I’ve just said?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  You ask very many things in one question. I will start to begin with one and then we will come maybe one after one. Firstly, we have to understand that according to the Torah the state of Israel has no right to exist. Not only.. They have no right to go to wage wars on other countries like Gaza, Iran and Lebanon and so on. So as you can understand in today’s day, Jewish people have no right to rule the land, even not one inch of any land, and of course even, not in the Holy Land.

The Holy Land in today’s day according to the Torah, it belongs to the Palestinian in full. Not a two-state, in not any or all of this. From the river to the sea should go back to the Palestinians in full. Could be the Jewish people can live there under a Palestinian government, like Jewish people living today in Iran. Even under the war [in Iran] they have no problem with Jews. They have a problem with occup occupiers. They have a problem with the genocide. They have no problem with Jews.

The same thing, we can live as peaceful citizens even in Palestine. But the whole land, the government should go back to the Palestinians in full and all the Palestinian refugees should come back, and they should get back their homes in the villages like it was before. This is according to the Torah. And this is even if the Zionists took the land freely without any wars with a free land. Especially when they’re doing that on the head of Palestinian people by killing them and exile them from the land. This doubles and triples the crimes much much more.

In the Torah it’s written, in the Ten Commandments: Don’t kill. Don’t steal. This is exactly what the Zion is doing. So of course in today’s day, according to the Torah, the whole land should go back to the Palestinians in full. Even in Israel you have hundreds of thousands of anti-Zionist Jews – Strong anti-zionist Jews. They don’t serve in the army. Today, today as we speak, yes, you have 55,000 of our youth, but they refuse to go to the army. Our rabbis tell them, “Better go to prison and not in this murderous army.”

Yes. 55,000. But if the police catch them, they put them in jail. And you can see that on the social media, in big protests, in Israel itself. In like design.. is beating them. None of them [are] like the English police – they come so nicely arrest you blah blah blah blah blah, that’s all. No, they’re coming in, they beat people on the head, everywhere. It’s um- You can see that only in the social media because the mainstream media don’t show that.

There are many people that didn’t take any benefits of the country, of the- of Israel, like here it’s called um ‘universal credit’, and so on. They didn’t take.. I have my cousin he’s called Abba Chaos, he lives in Israel and they have a big family, grandchildren and grandchildren, uh he didn’t take for the country, he didn’t want the the it’s called the Bituach Leumi.  I think it’s like universal credit. He get every month a check. He make a big party- all the children the grandchildren; he take the check tear it in two, to show this my enemies. I don’t want the money. Every month they do that, every month. There are many people who- they refuse to go to the army and they don’t take any benefits and they don’t participate the votes. But this is in Israel, hundreds of thousand. But outside Israel people [who] looks like me.. most of them are against the state of Israel.

Carim: Just coming back because you said a few interesting things there. Tell us and tell the audience just what is the story of Amalek?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  Amalek is not really a person. It is a person [grandson of Esau], but what means, it’s not really a person. Amalek is a concept. Amalek describes the people who uproot people away from God. That time, three and a half thousand years ago, when Jewish people got out from- when God took us out from Egypt.. Then the whole world has turned- saw and believed in God and saw the big power of God and everybody was afraid of God, in the- in the know, “Oh there is a god in the world, He runs the world.”

Then at that time, comes some nation, it calls Amalek and showed for the world, “No we don’t have to fear God, we can do whatever we want.” Since then Amalek is the symbol, the symbol of people who uproot people from God. In today’s day, we cannot point to any specific nation to say this is a Amalek or this is a Amalek or this is Amalek. Amalek today is a concept, a concept of the people who uproot people away from God. Now you don’t have to come now to my answer. You have the answer yourself.

Chapter 3: Torah And Israel

Who uprooting people away from God in today’s day? Not the Palestinians, not Iran. Iran is a God-fearing people. They’re saving God. Who uprooting God? The right people who is up rooting God is Netanyahu and all the whole Zionist. They uproot. Today are 18 million Jews,16 [million] of them, they are not. They are secular. They don’t believe in God. Whose job is that? This is the job of the Zionist in the last 140 years since they started the movement of Zionism. They uproot people from God constantly, constantly constantly.

Carim: So you’re saying Netanyahu is Amalek?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  Netanyahu. I didn’t have to say it. This is a fact. Amalek means ‘people who uproot people from God.’ Especially the Jewish people uprooted from God. This is the job of the Netanyahu. And exactly he is the Amalek. But I didn’t have to say it. This is just the fact. I bring out the fact on the table. But I say that with the full known. I not- have no problem to say that he is the right Amalek. Who gives him the right to say who is a Amalek? Who is not? Of course everybody who is his enemy, he will say he is a Amalek. I can say for you, I can say for everybody. I mean- you have to understand what it means: Amalek.

Now I will come to another point. A hundred years ago, one of one of our greatest rabbis at that time, before the state of Israel but after the Zionist movement begins. Yes. 40 years after Zionist movement begins. One of our greatest rabbis named the Chofetz Chaim. The books of the Chofetz Chaim you have in every single synagogue throughout the world. You will not find even one synagogue without his books. He was very famous, one of the biggest rabbi. He said that very clearly that, “The Zionists are Amalek in today’s day.”

Carim: And he said this when?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: 100 years ago years ago before the creation still, of the state, when Zionism was a movement. And they try with many drinks to bring up people to Israel to become a majority there, and they were working very hard to bring up people from Russia, from Poland, from Hungary, from from Ukraine, from all these countries to become a majority at that time. 100 years ago, to become a majority in the Holy Land. He said that at that time: “the day Amalek.” Again his name was the Chofetz Chaim, and the reference of that is in the book of Ikvisa D’Meshicha’ [heels of the Messiah], it’s called.

One of his greatest followers, his name was like my name, Rabbi Elhanan Wasserman, also then. He died in the holocaust unfortunately; I mean he was killed in the holocaust, Rabbi Wasserman. And he wrote it in his book: he said, the Meshicha, the words of rabbi- Rabbi Chofetz Chaim, said that the Zionists are the real Amaleks in today.

So firstly who is to be allowed to say who is Amalek. I mean everybody can say.. Who gives them the right to say this. And secondly, if we understand what Amalek means then we understand ourselves who is Amalek. That’s it.

Carim: Okay, you’ve been talking a bit about this. And uh another thing that’s also invoked a lot by Netanyahu and and other people in- especially Smotrich and Ben Gavir, is the idea of ‘Greater Israel’. Now many people who see Israel, you know, creating chaos in the region now with the Iran war, attacking Syria, attacking Lebanon- Lebanon, believe there’s a project of ‘Greater Israel’. What’s your thoughts on on the project of ‘Greater Israel’?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Give a- Look. Uh really I’m not an expert in uh in in politics. I’m an expert in our religion. And you’re asking me now political question. I can tell you just what I think as I have to study the ideas of Zionism, as, “know your enemy how to fight against them.” So I have to to study the book of Herzl, Theodor Herzl, and what were his achievements, and what what they want. So I can just tell you from this side. But however- what’s going on in the political world really, I can say that I don’t know. It could be that I haven’t got the right um view on that.

However, as I understand that:  the achievement of the the the the goal of Zionists uh to get a safe Israel. Of course, they want the biggest borders from the river to the sea. Yes, they didn’t want- they want all the Muslims out of that. All the Palestinians out out completely; the whole West Bank. They want to take the whole Gaza, everything. They want to take the whole Israel with the Golan Heights, with everything they want. In that, they want to be 100% safe. No difference what the price of that is. If the price of that is killing 100 million people they will do that.

Carim: 100 million people?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Everything. What the prize is to wipe out Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, wipe them completely out. If they need that for their security, they will do that. They have no problem with that. They haven’t got even normal human feelings. They see only themselves, selfish for themselves; what they want. And this is what they want. But I don’t..

Carim: Is the idea.. Sorry to interrupt. Is the idea to to conquer all these lands or do you think the idea is just to create so much chaos in those lands that they can control as much of Israel, and maybe beyond Israel, as as they like?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Uh it’s not only chaos. What they like: Could be they want 500 miles around Israel to be empty. Something like that to make sure that no nobody can hit them. They want to make weak all the countries..

Carim: ..around them

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: ..around them. But I don’t think they want to become leaders on the whole world. They want their own country but a safe country, and there is no price that is too big for them.

Carim: So when you say there’s no price.. like right now there’s a war going on and Iran is being bombed a lot, and Iran is a strong nation. I mean in terms of the army etc. So, do you think if this war continues, do you think it’s like- I mean, when you say they’ll kill 100 million people, the implication is they could drop a nuclear bomb on Iran if they wanted to. Do you think if it comes to that they they would?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: I think yes, 100%.

Carim: 100%. Yes. They wouldn’t think twice?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: If they will feel they will have to do that. In my eyes, yes.

Chapter 4: Zionism And Amalek

Carim: And in terms of- I mean another thing that’s happening right now. I mean what’s happening also in the war is, Iran is retaliating by by by hitting American bases and hitting strategic assets in in the Gulf countries, in Qatar and the UAE and Saudi Arabia and Oman and Bahrain etc. I mean, so, so what you’re saying is there there’s no there’s no care for [by] the Zionists, that if these countries get hit, if their economies get depleted. If anything, you you you’d probably be- they’d probably be quite happy with the fact that these countries are now fighting with each other?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: They have- they don’t think. They don’t think even about other people. It’s not like England, but our government.. I didn’t come to say if it’s right or it’s not right. I’m not in the political world. Yes. But they they are caring for other people. If they go out out to a war with France, they will care about the the the civilians. [But] he will- they don’t care nothing. They don’t think nothing. They don’t think, they think only, they think only about themselves. And no price is too high for them. No price is too high for them. It’s not like America. It’s not like the UK. It’s not like all the..

Carim: Are you are you saying this because of what we’ve seen them do in Gaza and what they’re doing in Lebanon, or would you have said this 10 years ago as well?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: I would say that also uh 10 years ago. This is written. This is really what our Rabbi said, that Jewish people if they gone away from God, they are worse, more than animals.

Carim: Your Rabbi said this, your-

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes. Yeah. This is in the Talmud very clearly. Very clearly.

Carim: So this is a famous rabbi.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: This is a Talmud saying..

Carim: the Talmud says itself..?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Accepting that.. Jewish people if they are close to God they are holy people. They are a chosen people. They were- they’re saving God, and they are holy people. But if they are gone away from God they are worse than animals. And that- you can see that with your eyes. You told me about the war in Gaza. The war in Gaza didn’t- wasn’t the first war. Yes. This already: 77 years full of wars and we see that every time.

Yes. I myself am born in Jerusalem. Yes. My mother told me what she saw in 1948.  Didn’t want to say that. I cannot say that. What she saw.. how their their behavior was against the Palestinians. Crazy. Crazy. And what’s happened, the Sabra and Shatila [two refugee camps where in 1982 they massacred]. You know all this thing that they’re doing already for for centuries- not centuries I mean-

Carim: For 77 years. ..And before that, a few years before that also in Palestine.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: but… Yes yes yes what they’re doing, but my mother remembers that. She saw that with her eyes. My father told me what he saw at that time.. My father passed away already, but uh he was uh.. 1948, he was about 20 years old and he saw everything. He told me everything what he saw with his own eyes.

The Zionist is not like the western countries where they’re thinking about civilians. No, they don’t think about nobody. They are selfish completely. They’re thinking only about..

Carim: How how does that work? I mean the thing is: how is it that- I mean what you’re saying is that the Zionist, and we’ve seen for example, we see when they bomb Gaza; they have these parties where they go and they see the bombing. We see now when they are bombing Iran and they’re bombing Lebanon, you see people.. If you see Israeli media and you see Israeli YouTubers, you see a lot of celebrity language. You know, they’re celebrating the fact that people are dying and being bombed.

But but you saying that this is a thing which is like- If the Zionist is is, you know, a lot more deadly in terms of their intention, you saying this.. Then like you know, Western imperialists or you know other imperialists because there’s lots of imperialism in the world. Why? Like how does that work?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Look, a Jewish person.. God has created the Jewish people to be connected to him, to be believers in him. And if they leave, they leave it away, they they’re, they lost the faith in God. They lost the humanity. They lost completely the humanity that you can see with your own eyes. You’re asking me why it is. I can understand that this is more deeply to explain it. But you can see the fact. You can see the fact when England going on a war they’re caring about all the civilians, and if they hit some civilian..

Carim: ..sometimes.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Okay but they apologize if something happened. You know, they have no problem like they’re celebrating killing children in Gaza, they’re celebrating. They say, “They are creatures, we may kill them.” They say, “They are animals. They are nothing, we may kill all of them.” They don’t care about them at all.. Completely. I mean you can see that with your eyes. Unfortunately, unfortunately, I mean people where they lost the believing in God, they lost everything. They lost the humanity. They lost completely.

Carim: How do you feel? I mean this is your- these people are acting in your religion. They’re acting in the name of your religion. You’re obviously a devout Jew. You are, you love Judaism. You are hoping that Judaism thrives in in the world, that your children and grandchildren and many generations can continue to practice Judaism. When you see so many people who who say they are Jews, uh behave in this way, how do you feel? What is your concerns about the future?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Give a look! Again, I’m coming from a religious point of view. We believe that the bad side will have the end. This again not my words, it is written in the Torah, and the reference of that is in Numbers 14 verse 41. It’s really was a similar situation when God took out the Jewish people from Egypt. And then he command them to stay in the ex- in the forest for 40 years. I don’t know if you read sometimes the Torah, but the most people, they didn’t agree. They say, “No, we want to go up to the Holy Land, even by force,” and prophet Moses told them, “No, stay in the desert for 40 years, God commanded you to stay, took out from Egypt, and commanded you to stay in the desert 40 years. Only after that you can go to the Holy Land.” But these people didn’t agree, and they went up. Then prophet Moses told them, “Why do you rebel against God, you will not succeed, and then that’s what happened.

They tried to go up, and they were – all of them killed! Yes, a rebellion against God cannot be succeed. As long as the state of Israel is in rebellion against Almighty. You commanded us to stay in exile and not to rebel against Him. In what Zion is doing, our rebellion is a rebellion against God. They will not succeed. Again, you look today, political eyes, they are strong. They are very strong, and all the strong countries support them. And uh with political view you don’t see- You see that they will succeed for the next thousand years, but again I’m coming from the religious point of view. In the religious point of view, I’m 100% that they will come to an end, and this is not my words. First it is the words of the Torah and then again many rabbis of our Great sages told that already, before the creation of the state of Israel, like I I mentioned before the Chofetz Chaim.

He said it also, that even [if] they will agree to create a state, only till a certain amount of time.. It will come the end. I’m sure on that 100%, that the end will come. We hope and pray for a peaceful end. Nobody looks for bloodshed. However, the day.. will.. come.. to an end, 100%.

Now, of course, when I see the uprooting: so many people away from God. 16 million out of 18 million, are non-believers today by the influence of Zionist. Of course, this makes very bad feelings. And when you don’t believe in the Jewish principles, it makes feeling lost. Okay, we are finished. Another generation, another generation, two, three generations, we are finished.

Carim: Okay..

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: But we know that this will not be the case. They will come to an end, and we will succeed at the end.

Carim: Okay. So, you you say- you call, you call like the majority of, I mean I’m guessing world, you said 16 million out of 18 million non-believers, and the reason you say that is because they don’t, according to you, believe in those 13 principles of of Judaism. But I mean they would see themselves as Jews though, right?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yeah, they

Carim: But you you wouldn’t see them as Jews. I’m just just clarifying it.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yeah. The same, like a secular Muslim will see themselves as a Muslim.

Carim: Okay. I I understand that point… Um so I mean we’ve discussed Amalek and we’ve discussed the promised land in in a way when we discuss Zionism and and and Judaism.

Chapter 5: The Idea Of Greater Israel

Can you tell me more about some of the other sort of theological arguments that people inside of Israel, wrong.. I mean in your view would be wrongly used, like for example taking building the temple again. There’s discussions about you know- For a while now, there’s been a few movements within Israel that are trying to desecrate or destroy the the the Al-Aqsa mosque because they want to build the temple. The other issue: there’s another thing about the red cow – there’s the idea of the messiah that you spoke about. Tell me from your perspective what are- what what is their wrong interpretation of it, and what’s the- what should be the correct interpretation of these things?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Uh I will split it in a few.

Carim: Yes.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Because I didn’t want to make a long thing. Firstly, we will speak about the Messiah because this is serious. The other one is just fantasizes. It’s not it’s not reality. I will come back to that. But Messiah, this is a reality. We Jewish people, we believe in the Messiah. We believe that Messiah will come. But don’t make a mistake and Messiah will not be another Dajjal, will not kill innocent man, woman, children, just a rebel ant. The purpose of Messiah will be to bring back all the people of the world to serve the same God.

In the time of Messiah, there will be uni unity from the whole world. Messiah will not come with physical power at all. In our scriptures, Messiah described, “ani v’rochev al chamor.” That means a poor man coming on a white donkey. We don’t know what it means. Today is no donkeys. Like many prophecies, we will not, only understand that when it will become a reality.

However, Messiah is not ascribed as a strong person: “I come, I’m the king, I will kill everybody. Everybody, my slave.” No, a poor man coming on a white donkey. That’s all. Messiah will not come with physical power. He will come with spiritual power in the heart of all the people. At that time I, with the Palestinian, not the I.. Jewish people with the Palestinian people will not be on two sides of the fence. They will be on the same side of the fence. All of us together will go up, will serve the same God in harmony and peace.

And the Holy Land, this is a holy place. This a holy place all over the years. And the Holy Land will be the main place where people will come and to serve their- closer to God. Even people will live in the whole world, but they will come up there to serve God, to to be closer to God in the Holy Land. But it will be not only us. This will be us, with the Palestinians, with with all the people. This is our belief in Messiah. Messiah will not come and kill people, innocent people for nothing. Just..

Carim: What’s- what’s the what’s the, in your view, what do you think is the idea of the messiah in the minds of the the settlers? For example like people like Daniel Awais or people like Ben Gvir or Smotrich? I mean I’m sure you haven’t spoken to them about what they think, but in your view what can you imagine their view on the Messiah is?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes, you have to split it. Netanyahu is a non-believer. They don’t believe in the Messiah at all; he’s just using that. But the other people, the settlers and the other people, what they are – believers, they are completely confused. Completely confused with the religion that took many things out of context and put it on the wrong place. Like let’s say about the settlers. Yes, the settlers say they are religious, but they see with their own eyes.

The design is- the goal of Zionism is to uproot people from God. Take away people from God. So how do you put it together? You are a believer or not? You want all the people to become believers, or you want all the people to become unbelievers? You are a believer. What do you want, exactly? How do you show these people that are away people from God? How do you save them? They are completely confused in their minds in the taking also out, the concept of Messiah from the right concept. In they say Messiah means like, “He is the Messiah or something like that.” This is what they thinking about the Messiah.

But to know what Messiah is, is not something that you can Google on the internet. You have to read the real holy Jewish books to understand what the concept of Messiah is. And it’s very clear. If you look in the books of the prophets, the 24 books, you will see very clearly the purpose of Messiah and what he going to do if a messiah will come. It’s written in Psalms. Yes. Chapter 97. It’s written hundreds of times in Psalms. I just give you one example, but it’s hundreds of times. When God will reveal his kingdom on the world, the whole world will be happy. All the nations of the world will be happy.

We say in our prayers “——–”, that means the whole world, the whole- not only Jews, the whole world will come together to serve the same God in harmony and peace. In like that we have many many many verses, hundreds and thousands of verses in our prayers in the books of the prophets again and again and again and again. That what the Zionism is doing, in what the settler is doing, is completely taking out of concept many things, and I will come to the other point what you’re asking um

Carim: It’s about the..

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: ..the red cow

Carim: the red cow and the mosque on the temple mount

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: I will give you example. This is completely fantasious- fantasize. It’s not reality. Look. Netanyahu. Yes. He’s a murderer. He’s very bad. Bad is not a word for him. Yes? But he’s not crazy, unfortunately. He’s not crazy. He was much better when he was crazy. But unfortunately, he’s not crazy. He will never speak about the red cow. He will never speak about building the the temple mount, because he’s not crazy. The settlers are crazy people.

Crazy people are speaking about fantasizes, about things. Why you don’t hear Netanyahu speaking never ever about the red cow? He’s not crazy. That’s all. This is not a reality.

Chapter 6: Red Cow And Temple

The red cow. This is again, this is a concept, a holy concept. You cannot kill man, woman and children in the hope that God will be with you. This doesn’t go together. God says, “Don’t kill.” If you do something that God forbids, then God is not with you. If they want the- in our belief, the temple mount- Yes, let’s come to this point. Many people asking me..

Carim: I mean, sorry, just before you get to the temple mount. So what I mean, in the orthodox, in the in the pure interpretation of the red cow.. What’s- what’s the red cow? Not in this- the crazy settler interpretation where they’re trying to kill people and hope the red cow comes in. In your understanding of the red cow what’s what’s the red cow?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: The red cow is just when, uh in that times, when you look in the Torah you can see that there are many situations where people get impure. Impure. And how you get back pure. Now I I try to explain to you. For example, we had a temple. To go in. in the temple, you have to be pure, not impure. If you are impure, like if you touch a dead person, yes, you become impure. How you will- uh how will you get back pure? ‘Tuha’ is pure; ‘Tuma’ means impure

Now, how do you come back? Usually there is something what is called ‘a mikveh’. I know but the Muslims also have ‘a mikveh’. Mikvah means a water, a small pool of water. You go in and you get back pure. You get back “Tuha”. But there are some uh uh impurities that you need about the red cow. The red cow means that you have to take a cow that is completely red. But today you don’t see them, there. This was like a miracle. It was only nine red cows, since God gave the Torah to Mount Sinai. The 10th will be when the Messiah will come because today we are anyway impure. We are in exile. So we haven’t got the red cow and we haven’t got the whole procedure of the red cow. In the red cow, uh we we slaughter them and then we burn them and we put uh the the the in the water, and we um..

Carim: ..the blood in the water.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Not the blood. We we burn the cow..

Carim: ..after ashes. The ashes. Okay.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck:  Yeah. The ash. Yes. After slaughtering we put it on ash, and the ash we put on water. In this water on some conditions, it’s written in the Torah, you put it on impure people and they get pure.

Carim: Okay.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: We don’t understand it. This is a command of God. One of the commands, but we don’t understand. There are many commands that we understand like, “Don’t kill”, “Don’t steal.” We understand it. But there are many commandments that we don’t understand why it is. It is like what’s what’s written in the Torah. Everybody can see that the Torah is open. This is the concept of the red cow. Now after we gone away, we gone out of the Holy Land. Yes. So we are anyway impure. So the red cow goes out of use. We don’t need them anymore. The next time we will need it when messiah will come. Then we will have the red- the red cow.

Carim: Okay. So now the temple mount.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Now, now I will come to the temple mount. But I come from a different angle. I come back to this. The same thing that many people asking me, if you believe in the temple,  where it’s going to be built. In what I believe.. Again the same thing that I say about the Messiah. To understand the concept of the Temple Mount, it’s not something that you Google on the internet. You have to look in the books of the prophets, learn about it, to understand what it is.

In our scriptures is written that the temple- the 3rd Temple will come down from heaven – A TEMPLE OF FIRE. And we will serve God in this temple Now we can understand it? No, we cannot go in into fire. We don’t know how- in what it will be, how it will be. It is not something that we can build with our hands. Yes, this is something we believe in. Wait and see. When Messiah will come, it will be much more spiritual world. In this will happen many spiritual things, but we cannot understand in today’s day. However, this is the Jewish belief in the 3rd Temple.

How it will be built, who will be building, what’s going to happen, like we don’t understand how it can be that we will serve God in a temple of fire. The same thing: we don’t understand exactly what will happen. It’s it’s written in the in the in in the scriptures, “——–”; God will build the temple with fire. We don’t understand what it is. Let us wait and let us see. And that’s all. But one thing that we know 100%: that at that time there will be peace on the whole world.

I will have to touch another point here. Very important point. People asking me many times about the Temple Mount, about Messiah, and I tell them when in our scriptures the Messiah- What we waiting for is the Messiah that he will make peace in the whole world. I will give you a nice story of what has happened with one of our greatest rabbi, I mentioned him before, Maimonides. Maimonides was 4 thousand years ago. He was the doctor, the private doctor of the sultan.. I didn’t remember the name of the sultan. One of the sultans..

Carim: where in which which

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: ..in in in Egypt

Carim: ..in Egypt. Okay.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes. And he was the personal doctor. One time, the sultan asked him uh, “Look you are my private doctor my life and my life of my family is in your hands, but you are not loyal to me. How can I do that?” He say, “You see I’m not loyal?” He says, “Because you believe in Messiah. If a Messiah will come, you believe he will be the king. I’m the king.” Maimonides answer him, “Look the Messiah will come. If you will not be the first, the first one, who will take your crown and put it on his head, he is not the right Messiah. Because the Messiah will come: everybody will agree to him. Me and you together, Messiah will bring in spirituality in our heart to see and to serve the same God in harmony and peace.

This is what Messiah will be standing for here on the world, to bring us spiritual world. This is the job of Messiah. And if you will not be the first one to give him the crown, this is not the right messiah. This is the false messiah: the same thing is what the Zionists mention

Chapter 7: What Is The Messiah

“Messiah” “messiah”, something like that. I want first see, by the messiah, what they want to say, that Netanyahu is the messiah. I want to see that everybody agrees with him. Unfortunately- fortunately, thanks to god that 90% of the world are not agreeing with him, so he’s not the messiah at all. However..

Carim: I mean but but but do you think some people see him as a messiah in in some said as a messiah

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: crazy people.

Carim:.. as actual messiah or just as a hero or champion, or they actually call him..

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: They want.. They give, like they give names, Amalek for whom they want. They give name of Messiah for who they want. Messiah, the job of messiah is to bring people close to God. This is the job of messiah, the whole job. What he will do on this world is to bring people together to serve God. What is the job of Amalek: to take away people from God, to kill people, to make hatred between people not to unite people. Exactly the opposite of what Messiah doing, but these people are crazy.. the settlers are crazy and they’re giving names. Everybody can give names.

And then if you have the power for that, okay they have the power, but it doesn’t make a wrong, a right, because you have the power to that. So I come back to this point, what people asking. “Okay I understand everything what you say about Messiah about the Temple Mount. Fine. However, do you believe the Messiah will come? Then the whole world will serve God. In which way?”

The Jews believe in the Jewish way. The Muslims believe also in the Messiah. They believe, they will be in the Muslim way. The Christian believe it will be in the Christian way. So again, you have something, why to argue to kill each other. My answer to that is the religion. This is very very important to understand the religion where it’s never the problem. The problem is forcing up other people, occupying other people, forcing up to think to do what you want. This is the problem. But the religion itself has no problem.

I give you the example. You are a Muslim. Can you sit down in a coffee shop with a cup of tea with a Christian friend?

Carim: Me and you are sitting here having a good time.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: ..by a cup of tea sharing the belief. You explain to him [that] you believe in Messiah. He explain what he has, what he believes. You don’t hate each other. You’re good friends. Let’s wait and see. That’s all. There’s not: The religion itself; it’s not a reason why to hate each other. The problem starts only by the occupation, by force other people and even forcing other people of the religion. Yes. like it was the Spanish Inquisition. Yes, they’re forcing up the religion of other people.

This creates hatred. This creates killing. This creates all the problems. But not the religion himself. The Christian religion, the Muslim religion, the Jewish religion, they can live together in peace. They have no problem as best friends. Like the Sultan in Egypt, his doctor, his private doctor was a Jewish rabbi and not any Jewish rabbi – one of the famous Jewish rabbis. Maimonides was his private doctor because the religion itself is not a problem. The problem is to force up on other people. So I come back to the point we have our belief in Messiah. You have your belief in Messiah. The Christians have their belief in Messiah. There’s no problem. We can live together. Just wait and see. That’s all.

I believe, you believe, that when Messiah will come, everybody will recognize what is the right in the world. Okay, let’s wait and see. When God will come down, everybody will see God. Everybody will recognize in him and everybody of course will follow him.

Carim: Okay. You obviously.. I mean you you obviously you’ve been attending most of the demonstrations against the the bombing of Gaza and the genocide of Gaza, and now the bombing of Iran, for the last two and a half years or just about two- it’s not yet two and a half years, but it’s more than two years. You wear Palestinian garb. Obviously, just based on what you’re saying, you you know.. I mean you’ve mentioned that in your view the Zionists are almost like Amalek. So you’ve obviously dedicated a big part of your religious life to trying to purify, I would say, this Judaism, by resisting Zionism and by resisting these people who have usurped your religion, right? Um do you see that as the most important religious duty you have?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Uh, in today’s day, “Yes.” Give a look.. If somebody will come into the Muslim, uh Muslim people, yes, and succeed to uproot so many Muslims from the religion – Yes, of course. This is one of the most important things of Muslim person to put things on the right place, for themselves, for the children and the grandchildren and for the world, to give the right image for the world of Islam. The same thing is about Judaism. If somebody comes in the name of Jewish people, they’re killing other people and they’re doing so so many murder acts: What they’re doing in my name. When I going in the street and I hear behind me somebody says, “Hitler, Hitler”, I know he watch yesterday a film of Gaza.

Yes, they’re doing that in my name. Yes, of course. This is our most important duty to come out, and this is important for us ourselves, for our children, for next generation and for the world, to show what is real Judaism.

Carim: We’ve seen all the destruction in Gaza and in Lebanon and in Iran, and everywhere else which is now being portrayed by a state which says it’s a Jewish state. Right? In your understanding of of history, of Jewish history, are there other stories of of people who claim to be Jews or who are Jews behaving as badly as this?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Just look at the history. You don’t see that at all.

Carim: So this is unique.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Jewish, of course Jewish people, were all the time believers in God. Loyal citizen to all the countries where they lived, and there was every time loyal. You can’t see in the whole 2,000 years since we are in exile, even one rebellion of Jewish people. Like you have one, but it didn’t- wasn’t by force it was ‘Shabbatai Zvi’. I don’t know if you heard about it. And [he] built up a messianic movement, a false messianic movement, but he didn’t, wasn’t by force. It was only a.. not not too long, a few years till the sultan of Turkey just uh finished with the whole thing.

But you don’t see it in the whole long of 2,000 years of the Jewish exile, as we are exile history. You you don’t see nothing close to go to them. All of- all the time Jews live as peaceful citizens in all the countries, because Jews were believers in God, and they believe that God sent us in exile. We are not try even, to go out by force. We are in the hands of God. God put us in the corner. We stay in the corner. We are not try to come out of the corner by force.

Chapter 8: Judaism And Violence

Carim: So I mean there’s many people listening to this conversation and obviously you are speaking as a Jewish person as a rabbi. But there’s people who listen to this and say we are.. based on what we’re saying, we are probably you know making Israelis, or people who say they are Jewish but don’t but support Israel, we’re making it unsafe. And they’ll probably accuse you of being a self-hating Jew; they’ll accuse me of being an anti-semite. They’re accusing many people now of being anti-semites based on this. Anyone who now is pro-peace and wants to ensure that children in Gaza aren’t being killed, they’re calling them anti-semites. What’s your response to that?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Give a look.. the the the it didn’t come in- even any anti-semitic. The Muslims were never anti-semitic, and they are still not today anti-semitic. Everybody who knows a bit of history knows that Jews and Muslims have a golden life. For centuries we lived together. And for the truth: Is to say that we lived in the Muslim countries much better than in the rest of the world. And this is open history. Everybody can see that.

Carim: I mean, I agree with you. But there has been- there’s been some instances where some Muslims are anti-Semitic. I mean, but on the whole, I agree with you.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. Just read the history. You are a bit influenced from the Zionist.

Carim: No, I know. I just have some Muslim friends who are quite anti-semitic. I mean this is why I know, but I agree with you on the whole.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: I will explain. This Muslim friends that you have yes bring them together with me..

Carim: No no they will love you.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes, 100% because they are not hating Jews, they are hating occupiers, they are hating the genocide. This is exactly what they’re hating. They have nothing against Jews at all! ..Look. I’m already, I I came from Jerusalem, yes. I’m already seven generations there in the Holy Land. We gone out. We don’t want to live under the Israeli government. We gone out. And 1970, my whole family got out. It’s not only my family. Since 1948, tens of thousands of Jewish families have gone out of Israel. Even today, in my area, Stanford, there are about 150 families. They came out only in the last 10 years. They didn’t want to live there.

And uh, but my mother told me very much that she remembers the good life between Jews and Palestinians. They live together. They used to babysit each other, the children. She remembers that: Palestinian neighbors bringing over the children to parents to watch over them when they going to any any occasion. In the same thing the Jewish parents bring the children to the Palestinian neighbours to babysit them. And uh and also uh, we used to dance by the weddings each other. I myself I know many Palestinian songs,  just we’re singing what what we heard by the Palestinian weddings. We used to- we use, we had a golden life each other together.

And look I give you example even today’s day. Yes, I live in Stanford, I live in Stanford, uh there living tens of thousands of Jewish people; there living many thousands of Muslims. I don’t know how- I don’t know how many. In their synagogues side by side with mosques, they helping each other. When the Jewish synagogues wants to build out, uh extension making bigger, the Muslim countries- the Muslim counselors helping them. When the- when the mosque, in case they want to build up| build out, the Jewish counselors help them to get a permit.

One of the Jewish counselors, his office is in the mosque, in the mosque of Khazanovo. There’s his office, where people coming up to him, is in.. We have a golden life together. I can say all the minicab drivers in our area about 4,500, all of them are Muslims. If he’s sending a small children of two three years in the play groups with the Muslim drivers, I never ever even hear one single problem between them. I tell, [it] was just a nice I think.. for two years ago I was by a rally here in London – pro Palestinian rally and I burn the Israeli flag there.

Chapter 9: Jews And Muslims Coexist

Carim: You burned the flag?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes. Yes.

Carim: That’s a crime. You know.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: The police arrest me.

Carim: Okay. Sure. Okay. So you got arrested for it.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: And I asked the police why they arresting me; what is- it’s not against the law.“No no this is racial hatred.” I told him, “To kill the children in Gaza is not racial hatred but to burn an Israeli flag among 10,000 Muslims this racial hatred.” ..And I was in Hammersmith there in the police station, and I have the first interview: It was Saturday- Friday night half past 3 in the morning, they called me out for the first interview.

Carim: At half past 3 in the morning so like late at night. Yes.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes. Yes. And they ask me why do you do that? What do you want? At the end of the conversation, I asked the police, “Can I ask you something?” “Yes.” I told him, “I think I know you. Maybe you working in my area in Stanford Hill. Tell me.”.. “Yes. I working in Stoke Newington police station.” I remember from my area. I saw him. I I remember his face.. “What are you doing here?” “Sometimes we sharing. We’re going one place to the other. So I working now here. But usually I work in Stoke Newington.”

I told him, “Can I ask you some question?” “Yes.” “In Stanford, of course, you know the area.” “Yes” “You’re patrolling this area. There are tens of thousands of Jewish people and tens of thousands of Muslims in the area. Most of them have youth. How many calls you have a day in fighting between the Jewish youth and the Muslim youth?” You say nothing. How many times a week? How many times a month, a year? “Never.” I told him why. “Why? It’s not normal.”

Yes, there’s two people they should fight each other. You don’t know. I told him, “You know why? This is because of my racial hatred. What I am spreading out.” The hatred disunites them. The Muslims know that people like me, the people in Stanford are against the state of Israel. They have no problem with Jews. We’re living there as best friends. And you don’t have to go too far into the history.

Look. Jewish people living today in Iran. I I take the extreme example, Iran. Iran is the greatest enemy of Israel. In the middle of the war, Iran didn’t concentrate the Jewish people in concentration camps, now. They protect them like normal normal citizens. There are 35,000 Jewish people living in Iran just now, and they have a golden life there even in in the middle of the war. They have no problem. The Iranians have no hatred against Jews. They have a problem with the occupation. The Iranians say that again and again and again and again in the media. “We are not against Jews. We against the occupation.”

But the mainstream media are under Zionist influence, and  they want to brush everybody with anti-semitism, and then they can say, “Oh these are Nazis these are anti-semitic!” Haven’t got nothing to do with anti-semitic. Why why why the media didn’t bring out this point, that Jewish people living in Iran now, under the missiles, they’re living free, They have today their schools, the high schools the- all the institutes. There’s a Jewish hospital in Iran funded completely by the government. Why you don’t see that in the news? They just say, “The Iranian anti-semites, they’re Nazis.”

Why people are so blind? Why they don’t think? Just open the eyes. And not only Iran, all the Muslim countries are full of Jews in Morocco, in Tunisia, Algeria, Turkey. Everywhere is full of Jews, and Jewish people living there peacefully. They have no problem there. Why people ignoring that? This all proves and shows that this hasn’t got nothing to do with anti-semitism. You say you have friends anti-semitic. I can promise you, bring them on my table. You will see them, they will love me. They have no problem with a Jew. They have a problem with occupation. They have a problem with the genocide. They want to see Palestine back to the Palestinians. I also want to see that.

I waiting for this day and this day I will be proud to go back to Palestine. I was a um Palestinian ambassador. I told him, ”I’m a Palestinian Jew. I want a Palestinian passport.” He told me, “Unfortunately at the moment we are not issuing passports, but when we will- when we will, one of the first passports will be for you. It’s- I will- it I want, I want to demonstrate for the world that it’s an honor for us to give a passport for Jewish rabbi to show haven’t got nothing to do with anti-semitism. We are not against Jews, Jews will be welcome in Palestine.” When Jews welcome in Palestine, when it will be a Palestinian country, as long they haven’t got any goals to take over the country; they want to live as loyal citizens.

And I will tell you a nice story. Story – This was for 30 months ago. This was 3 months after the the October 7 [Hamas attacks on Israel].

Carim: 3 months before or after?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: After, after in January.

Carim: It’s not 30 months ago. It’s about two years ago.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yeah. In January. It was in January. In January – 3 months, we we were invited to Turkey to a big conference there for Palestine. And we come there. In the middle of the conference appears there Ismail Haniyeh, you know who is that. I’m not allowed here by law to mention this terrorist group but Ismail Haniyeh, Yes.

Chapter 10: Anti-Semitism Debate

He was the leader of Hamas the political leader of Hamas. He appears in the conference. He come up and he saw the rabbis. He told them to come up – in a come up. He embraced our rabbis and he say, “We have no problem with Jews. I want to demonstrate for the world, Jews like these rabbis will be welcome in our Palestine. We have no problem with Jews. We have a problem with occupation. We have a problem with the genocide but not with Jews. Jews like that will be welcome.” Okay. And we see that in many places.. This have nothing to do with anti-semitism.

Carim: We’re about to conclude but just a few more questions. Right. Um, many people who support the Israeli state, not just Zionists, I mean people who are probably even like soft Zionists, but even TV presenters, everyone sort of says the Zionists and Israel have a right to defend itself. Netanyahu uses this rhetoric a lot. Um, there is this idea that because of what happened in the Holocaust, you know, the Jews should have a state of their own, um so that they can kind of be safe. What’s your what’s your thoughts on that?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Really, you asked two questions, but I will try to answer that firstly. That was.. to say that the Zionist have the right to defend theirselves. But who gives them the right to be there in first place? It’s not their land. You cannot robber away someone’s house and then to say, ‘I have the right to defend ourselves.’ Give back the right- the house, to the right owner. Then you won’t- You don’t have any enemies. You haven’t got, you’re not in danger. You’re in danger because you took away someone’s house. Give them back the house.

Who gives them, for the Zionist, the right to take away the land, ‘on first hand’, from the people who used to live there. They bring them up- bring up Jewish people from the whole world with many tricks, to become a majority to take over the land. Everybody who knows the history, knows Jews was only 10%. He may be less than that for 100 years ago in the Holy Land.

The Zionist bring up a majority with many tricks, and then they take away the land from the right owners, from the right people who used to live there, and they say, “I have the right to to to- I have the right to defend myself.” ..Who gives you the right to be there?

Chapter 11: Final Reflections

And I have to say more, even if I don’t want to go in politic.. But no one- no one in the world has the right to take a country from the people who lives there, and give them.. From another people!  England, who gives gives the land. The United Kingdom gives the land for the Zionist people by the by the Balfour Declaration. Who is England to give them away for another people? Can I give your house away for somebody else? It doesn’t belongs to England. And even the United Nations hasn’t got the right to this!

And I tell you more, Keir Starmer– I mean Keir Starmer. He’s our prime minister, Right? and very respected. Fine. Very good. He runs the country. Very good. If he will one day decide to give away England for a present, for Italy. Yes. What’s going to happen? Everybody will stand up against him. He hasn’t got a right to that. It’s not his country. Even the king cannot do that. It’s not his country. The land belongs for the English people who lives here. Palestine belongs for the people who live there. This is the Palestinian people. That’s all.

Nobody in the world, not the UN and not the United Kingdom and no one in the world have the right to take away this piece of land and give it away for other people, where they like them. Nothing will make this right. This wrong will never become a right. No difference who done this wrong. So now you come- Israel says, “We have the right to defend ourselves.” But who gives you the right to take it on ‘fair stand’? It’s not your land. Give back the land for the Palestinians.

And now I come back to the other question: what you’re asking about the Holocaust. The Jews gone through a holocaust, and Jews need a safe country, and the Zionist say, “We will save you, and we will give you a safe country, and we will save all the Jews in the whole world from anti-semitism.” I didn’t have to answer. I just say, “Open the eyes.” In today’s day, where is the most dangerous place for a Jew? Not for Palestinian, for a Jew to live. One place, Israel.

We live in the whole world. Nicely, peacefully. We have no problem. I live here in England nearly 40 years. Yes. I never saw a soldier on the street. I never see somebody going with guns. We don’t see that in the street. This means a safe country.

Israel? Every small child growing up with soldiers, with guns, with tanks, with all of this. This a safe country? Every day another bomb, another killing, another death. This is the most unsafe place for a Jew. For a Jew! We live in the Muslim world much safer than in Israel. Jewish people have a golden life in Iran, a golden life in Morocco, a golden life in Turkey. Everywhere Jews live peacefully. The only dangerous place for a Jew to live, is the state of Israel.

Did they bring any safeness for Jews? They only bring hatred, killing, and danger for Jewish people. They say they’re saving Jewish people from anti-semitism. They’re only raising anti-semitism all over the world. Since the second world war, anti-semitism goes out of fashion. And everybody who say even one word what looks anti-semitic he have to apologize apologize apologize. Who raising anti-semitism in today’s day? As I told you, I going in the street and I hear behind me “Hitler Hitler” ..that means he watched yesterday a film of Gaza. They erasing the anti-semitism all over the world; they bring in Jewish people into danger. Why do you see it’s happening, all this green [go] with ambulances? What’s happened there? Why? They say, “Only because of the war in Iran, because of the war in Gaza.” People get so angry.

And people unfortunately mixing up Jewish people with Zionism, because the secular Zionist, they cannot identify. But they see people like me. “Oh, he’s the Zionist. He’s the Jew.” They’re mixing up between Judaism and Zionism.

So, this has happened. I mean you know what I’ve speaking about ambulances and all this. This is- They’re erasing all the anti-semitism.. And then they come to cry, “Oh this is anti-semitic anti-semitic anti-semitic.” I say every time, for the police, “They’re coming to to protect us, and protecting in our neighborhood. I tell them “I’m very thankful you’re coming to protect us, very nice very good, but you don’t need- you don’t need- you don’t have.. “Just we take out one Palestinian flag”.. This will answer all the questions. Finish. We don’t need it!!

We don’t need a police protection. The Muslims don’t hate us. They hate Zionist. When they will see, ‘We are against the state of Israel’, they have no problem with Jews. You will not see even one incident. So again, I come back to the point you’re speaking also, about affairs. Zionism is not saving Jews. Zionism is just creating hatred against Jews and making Jews in danger.

And what you speak about the the the- about what’s happened in the Holocaust. Firstly, before we going in in any explanation, the Holocaust doesn’t justify to rob away land from other people. If you want a land, go claim from the Nazis to give you a part of their land. I don’t know- there are no Nazis there [in the Holy Land]. I mean, go to them – Go to Germany to ask for a land. What the Palestinians didn’t make the Holocaust. Why they have to pay the bill what the Nazis has done? I mean, this is completely unreasonable.

If the nations in the world wants to help Jewish people, fine. Save our America. Give them the state of Florida for the Jewish people. We also not allowed to take that, as we are in exile. We have sought not to go out of exile [from the Holy Land]. However, if you want to give them, give them say for England; Please give them Newcastle for Jewish people. Very nice. What do you want from the Palestinians? They didn’t make the Holocaust. Firstly.

Secondly, as I told you, Zionism doesn’t save Jewish people from a Holocaust. They’re only pranking anti-semitism on that.

Carim: Um.. We it’s it’s been a difficult two and a half years especially, and I mean it looks like war is not going to stop anytime soon, although we hope it does. War with Iran and a big regional war. What’s your, what’s your thoughts on the future?

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Look, I’m not.. Um, I’m a Jewish rabbi, but I’m not a prophet. But I can just say from the religious point of view, I mentioned it before. According to the Torah, the state of Israel will come to an end. It’s written in the Torah in Numbers 14:41, a rebellion against God cannot be successful. The state of Israel will come to an end. We hope and pray to a peaceful end. And that, the whole land from the river to the sea will go back to the Palestinians. We… How it will happen. I know people say, “Oh, I say every time I pray to God, it should happen in a peaceful way.” People say, “Oh, this is cannot be. This will cost millions of lives.”

I I say every time, for people, “No, just open and think: remember yourself what’s happened for 35 years ago. I don’t know if it’s in your times.

Carim: It was in my times.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Yes. And uh it was uh um 1990 when the USSR disappeared. The USSR was one of the- the second world power. It was one of the greatest powers. And for people to think that the USSR will come to an end, people think, “This cannot be. This will happen with millions of lives..” It didn’t cost even one single life. Even not one single life.

In the second example, you see that in South Africa, it’s cost lives in South Africa, but not so much as people thinks [that] it cost millions of lives. It’s cost much much much less than this. Then, so that proves that there is a way. ‘If there is a will, there is a way.’ And this is always my message to the United Kingdom and the United States and to the EU, where they are helping Israel so blindly. So blindly.

Could be they have a good intention, and they want to help Jews, and they’re mixing up between Jews and Zionists and they want to help Jews could be. And I’m not a god to judge their intentions, but what the deeds what they’re doing is completely wrong. They don’t help Jews with the state of Israel. The state of Israel just bringing Jews into danger. If you want to help Jews, bring- please bring a peaceful end to the state of Israel. And again, ‘if there is a will there is a way’, and the USSR is the proof of that. South Africa is the proof of that. The state of Israel will come to an end. We hope on a peaceful way.

The land will go back to the Palestinians. It doesn’t mean for Jews, have to be killed. No, we can continue living in Palestine like we live in Iran, like we live in Morocco, like we live in Turkey, like we live in Iraq, like we live in all Muslim countries. Peacefully. We can continue to live in Palestine, but give back the government COMPLETELY to the Palestinians, from the river to the sea. And then Jews and Muslims can live there together side by side. And again under a Palestinian government, under a Palestinian flag. And again, ‘according to the Torah this will happen’. I’m not a politician but this will happen according to the Torah.

I just say that again from the Jewish perspective, from the Jewish religion, from Numbers 14 verse 41, the state of Israel will come to an end. Hopefully, it will happen in our days. They will come to an end, into a peaceful land, and the land will go back to the Palestinians. I hope that I will see that in my lifetime.

Carim: Inshallah [if God Wills]. Rabbi Beck, thank you so much.

Rabbi Elhanan Beck: Thank you.

 

Links-

‘Not just Iran, ‘Israel would kill millions of people’ | Rabbi Elhanan Beck’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td23chkYKzM

The Online transcript
https://singjupost.com/unapologetic-w-rabbi-elhanan-beck-on-zionism-transcript/

(with thanks for sharing.)

Mary’s Message
/spirit/2020/05/marys-messages-to-help-us-during-tribulation-period-2517355.html